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	<title>Comments on: Ooma Puts Out a Call to Ditch Landlines for Web-Based Service</title>
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		<title>By: Ooma public launch imminent&#8230; &#8212; VoIP Insider</title>
		<link>http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20070719/ooma-puts-out-a-call-to-ditch-landlines-for-web-based-service/comment-page-1/#comment-2795</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooma public launch imminent&#8230; &#8212; VoIP Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came across Walt Mossberg&#8217;s article on Ooma back in mid-July, and the title of his piece &#8220;Ooma Puts Out a Call to Ditch Landlines [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ooma public launch imminent&#8230; &#124; coryandrews.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ooma public launch imminent&#8230; &#124; coryandrews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fashioned way, by using a commercial VoIP termination provider. I came across Walt Mossberg&#8217;s article on Ooma back in mid-July, and the title of his piece &#8220;Ooma Puts Out a Call to Ditch Landlines [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fashioned way, by using a commercial VoIP termination provider. I came across Walt Mossberg&#8217;s article on Ooma back in mid-July, and the title of his piece &#8220;Ooma Puts Out a Call to Ditch Landlines [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NextAdvisor Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Take control of your dialtone with ooma</title>
		<link>http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20070719/ooma-puts-out-a-call-to-ditch-landlines-for-web-based-service/comment-page-1/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>NextAdvisor Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Take control of your dialtone with ooma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Walt Mossberg, Personal Technology Columnist and resident tech guru at the Wall Street Journal, gave ooma a glowing review a few months ago. Walt liked many of the same features, such as the long term savings and the ability to integrate ooma with your existing phone line. You can view Walt&#8217;s full review below. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Walt Mossberg, Personal Technology Columnist and resident tech guru at the Wall Street Journal, gave ooma a glowing review a few months ago. Walt liked many of the same features, such as the long term savings and the ability to integrate ooma with your existing phone line. You can view Walt&#8217;s full review below. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Take control of your dialtone with ooma &#171; NextAdvisor Daily</title>
		<link>http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20070719/ooma-puts-out-a-call-to-ditch-landlines-for-web-based-service/comment-page-1/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Take control of your dialtone with ooma &#171; NextAdvisor Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Walt Mossberg, Personal Technology Columnist and resident tech guru at the Wall Street Journal, gave ooma a glowing review a few months ago. Walt liked many of the same features, such as the long term savings and the ability to integrate ooma with your existing phone line. You can view Walt&#8217;s full review below. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Walt Mossberg, Personal Technology Columnist and resident tech guru at the Wall Street Journal, gave ooma a glowing review a few months ago. Walt liked many of the same features, such as the long term savings and the ability to integrate ooma with your existing phone line. You can view Walt&#8217;s full review below. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments</title>
		<link>http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20070719/ooma-puts-out-a-call-to-ditch-landlines-for-web-based-service/comment-page-1/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How to hack Ooma for worldwide free calls?&lt;/strong&gt;

We still don&#039;t know how Ooma manages its P2P network and whether it can survive a company breakdown. If it&#039;s pure P2P, then the device can continue to run without the company. Because the peers are responsible for data transfer and there is no centra...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How to hack Ooma for worldwide free calls?</strong></p>
<p>We still don&#8217;t know how Ooma manages its P2P network and whether it can survive a company breakdown. If it&#8217;s pure P2P, then the device can continue to run without the company. Because the peers are responsible for data transfer and there is no centra&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Maszczak</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Maszczak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Maszczak</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Maszczak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE ! Someone send me an invite for White Rabbit ! I BEG YOU ! ...Pretty Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE ! Someone send me an invite for White Rabbit ! I BEG YOU ! &#8230;Pretty Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, would love to get a White Rabbit invite for the OOMA system.  If anyone can do this, I&#039;d be grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, would love to get a White Rabbit invite for the OOMA system.  If anyone can do this, I&#8217;d be grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Morgenstern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Morgenstern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the previous posts that point out the probable illegality of terminating calls through existing landlines. And the experience discussed by some current users is likely not indicative of what the general population will experience. Now I haven&#039;t used Ooma, but based on the architecture here&#039;s how I would predict it will work.

Let&#039;s suppose you are the first user in your community. Everything is peachy keen until another Ooma user out of the area decides to call your local movie theatre, Wal*Mart or someplace. The call is terminated over your personal landline. You coincidentally want to call your next door neighbor. That call has to terminate through the same landline that is now servicing other callers. Your call will be blocked. How convenient for you.

So, it&#039;s going to take a tremendous number of users signing on to the service and making local lines available to give you free ubiquitous calling nationwide. Otherwise, your call will have to be routed via broadband and terminated through a paid service. That will be at an added expense -- probably a couple of cents a minute -- just like other peer-to-peer networking architectures. What happened to the free for life model?

Let&#039;s look at a different scenario. Ooma works with the telephone connected to the Ooma hub. Presumably you can connect it through your NID (network interface device) to work with all phones in the house. If not, when junior is off at school only one person at a time can join the conversation unless you have a speakerphone. Using the Scout, you can get second dial tone, but per the previous example you can&#039;t join the existing conversation unless a three-way call is established. Again, how convenient. 

And, for the time being, all beta users must have a local line to subscribe to the service. That&#039;s to benefit Ooma so that they can establish a network. Again, you&#039;re paying for a local line so free is a misnomer. 

What happens beyond the beta window? If users don&#039;t need to have a local line, then how do you call them? Ooma isn&#039;t a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier so they can&#039;t get local numbers for users unless they buy them elsewhere. There&#039;s a cost associated with that. Did someone say free?

Some of these peer-to-peer schemes make sense. I&#039;ve been a PhoneGnome user for two years. You buy your equipment once -- at a more reasonable price -- and get most of the same features because they tell you up front you need a landline and a wholesale VoIP network provider if you want to make off-network calls. No hidden fees; no scam.

I could go on and detail other concerns I have, but I&#039;m not a user and basing my opinions on public statements. If someone wants to send me a White Rabbit invite, I&#039;d be happy to thoroughly test the device/service and report back again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the previous posts that point out the probable illegality of terminating calls through existing landlines. And the experience discussed by some current users is likely not indicative of what the general population will experience. Now I haven&#8217;t used Ooma, but based on the architecture here&#8217;s how I would predict it will work.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s suppose you are the first user in your community. Everything is peachy keen until another Ooma user out of the area decides to call your local movie theatre, Wal*Mart or someplace. The call is terminated over your personal landline. You coincidentally want to call your next door neighbor. That call has to terminate through the same landline that is now servicing other callers. Your call will be blocked. How convenient for you.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s going to take a tremendous number of users signing on to the service and making local lines available to give you free ubiquitous calling nationwide. Otherwise, your call will have to be routed via broadband and terminated through a paid service. That will be at an added expense &#8212; probably a couple of cents a minute &#8212; just like other peer-to-peer networking architectures. What happened to the free for life model?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at a different scenario. Ooma works with the telephone connected to the Ooma hub. Presumably you can connect it through your NID (network interface device) to work with all phones in the house. If not, when junior is off at school only one person at a time can join the conversation unless you have a speakerphone. Using the Scout, you can get second dial tone, but per the previous example you can&#8217;t join the existing conversation unless a three-way call is established. Again, how convenient. </p>
<p>And, for the time being, all beta users must have a local line to subscribe to the service. That&#8217;s to benefit Ooma so that they can establish a network. Again, you&#8217;re paying for a local line so free is a misnomer. </p>
<p>What happens beyond the beta window? If users don&#8217;t need to have a local line, then how do you call them? Ooma isn&#8217;t a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier so they can&#8217;t get local numbers for users unless they buy them elsewhere. There&#8217;s a cost associated with that. Did someone say free?</p>
<p>Some of these peer-to-peer schemes make sense. I&#8217;ve been a PhoneGnome user for two years. You buy your equipment once &#8212; at a more reasonable price &#8212; and get most of the same features because they tell you up front you need a landline and a wholesale VoIP network provider if you want to make off-network calls. No hidden fees; no scam.</p>
<p>I could go on and detail other concerns I have, but I&#8217;m not a user and basing my opinions on public statements. If someone wants to send me a White Rabbit invite, I&#8217;d be happy to thoroughly test the device/service and report back again.</p>
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		<title>By: BlogTrage &#187; Ooma wants you to have free VoIP landlines &#8212; for a price</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogTrage &#187; Ooma wants you to have free VoIP landlines &#8212; for a price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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