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	<title>Comments on: Apple's iWork Package Is Elegant but Wimpy Compared With Office</title>
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		<title>By: დოქტორ დელფიუსის ლაბორატორია &#187; Blog Archive &#187; გახდება iWork-სი Office-ის შემცვლელი?</title>
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		<dc:creator>დოქტორ დელფიუსის ლაბორატორია &#187; Blog Archive &#187; გახდება iWork-სი Office-ის შემცვლელი?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: გახდება iWork-სი Office-ის შემცვლელი?</title>
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		<dc:creator>გახდება iWork-სი Office-ის შემცვლელი?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven Luce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Luce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review, but there are a few misleading points...

First off, the lack of an Entourage-like application in iWork is not an &quot;omission&quot;. Apple chose to integrate iWork with their existing trio of applications (Mail, iCal, and Address Book). Which, in my opinion, is far better than the buggy, unstable pile out garbage that is Entourage 2008. In fact, the level of integration between iWork, iLife, and the built-in OS X productivity apps in Leopard is far better than anything Office has to offer. Now if Apple would only fix Mail&#039;s IMAP support, we&#039;d all be happy.

Second, most of your criticisms of Pages seem to center around that fact that Pages doesn&#039;t act like Word. Well, thank God! Word is a disorganized mess. And while Pages does take some time to learn, it is organized more like a good design application, rather than Microsoft&#039;s unintelligent scramble of functions. That said, the palette structure needs more polish, and a more-accessible word count and beefed-up dictionary would be nice.

Finally, let us be clear about one thing in particular...Keynote is to presentations what Excel is to spreadsheet: simply the best, by far.

And finally, we&#039;ve had the unfortunate pleasure of running Office 2008 on our brand-new, dual-core Mac Pros (with 8 gigs of memory). It blows. Microsoft has chosen to use its own proprietary rendering engine, rather than Quartz. Which may not seem like a big deal to some people, but functionally this means that Office needs to load a sort-of virtualized Vista into your Mac&#039;s memory in order to run. And it doesn&#039;t do it well. In fact, Office was sucking up about 90% of our usually blazing fast Xeon processor, and about 3/4 of the memory. It gets so bad at times, that switching between office apps can take up to 30 seconds. In the end, we were so frustrated by constant, unwavering slowdowns in Office, that we ditched the whole suite. Numbers may not be on par with Excel, but at least it runs well. 

When we contacted Microsoft about this problem, they actually told us that this was due to Office&#039;s amazing feature set! I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. Any one of Adobe&#039;s Creative Suite applications is significantly more powerful, and offers significantly more features, than any Office application. But guess what, they run beautifully! Until Microsoft pulls their heads out of their rear-ends, we&#039;re sticking with iWork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review, but there are a few misleading points&#8230;</p>
<p>First off, the lack of an Entourage-like application in iWork is not an &#8220;omission&#8221;. Apple chose to integrate iWork with their existing trio of applications (Mail, iCal, and Address Book). Which, in my opinion, is far better than the buggy, unstable pile out garbage that is Entourage 2008. In fact, the level of integration between iWork, iLife, and the built-in OS X productivity apps in Leopard is far better than anything Office has to offer. Now if Apple would only fix Mail&#8217;s IMAP support, we&#8217;d all be happy.</p>
<p>Second, most of your criticisms of Pages seem to center around that fact that Pages doesn&#8217;t act like Word. Well, thank God! Word is a disorganized mess. And while Pages does take some time to learn, it is organized more like a good design application, rather than Microsoft&#8217;s unintelligent scramble of functions. That said, the palette structure needs more polish, and a more-accessible word count and beefed-up dictionary would be nice.</p>
<p>Finally, let us be clear about one thing in particular&#8230;Keynote is to presentations what Excel is to spreadsheet: simply the best, by far.</p>
<p>And finally, we&#8217;ve had the unfortunate pleasure of running Office 2008 on our brand-new, dual-core Mac Pros (with 8 gigs of memory). It blows. Microsoft has chosen to use its own proprietary rendering engine, rather than Quartz. Which may not seem like a big deal to some people, but functionally this means that Office needs to load a sort-of virtualized Vista into your Mac&#8217;s memory in order to run. And it doesn&#8217;t do it well. In fact, Office was sucking up about 90% of our usually blazing fast Xeon processor, and about 3/4 of the memory. It gets so bad at times, that switching between office apps can take up to 30 seconds. In the end, we were so frustrated by constant, unwavering slowdowns in Office, that we ditched the whole suite. Numbers may not be on par with Excel, but at least it runs well. </p>
<p>When we contacted Microsoft about this problem, they actually told us that this was due to Office&#8217;s amazing feature set! I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. Any one of Adobe&#8217;s Creative Suite applications is significantly more powerful, and offers significantly more features, than any Office application. But guess what, they run beautifully! Until Microsoft pulls their heads out of their rear-ends, we&#8217;re sticking with iWork.</p>
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		<title>By: ted lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the comparisons to Office? Isn&#039;t Office a $300-$400 product? Isn&#039;t iWork $79? Even at education prices, iWork is still much cheaper than Office ($49 vs. $150 for Office). 

Word and Excel have had nearly 20 and 15 years, respectively to refine. Pages is 3 years old, and Numbers is new. Keynote, which is the oldest app at 4 years, trounces PowerPoint. Keynote is so good that after using it, going back to Powerpoint will be painful. 

But thats not to say that Pages and Numbers suck. They are great for home/school use, and they are very powerful and extremely easy to use. And both offer decent compatibility with Office. For the price, iWork is a much better deal than Office. However, if you need to exchange Word, Excel and Powerpoint docs with PC users on a daily basis, Office is the logical choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the comparisons to Office? Isn&#8217;t Office a $300-$400 product? Isn&#8217;t iWork $79? Even at education prices, iWork is still much cheaper than Office ($49 vs. $150 for Office). </p>
<p>Word and Excel have had nearly 20 and 15 years, respectively to refine. Pages is 3 years old, and Numbers is new. Keynote, which is the oldest app at 4 years, trounces PowerPoint. Keynote is so good that after using it, going back to Powerpoint will be painful. </p>
<p>But thats not to say that Pages and Numbers suck. They are great for home/school use, and they are very powerful and extremely easy to use. And both offer decent compatibility with Office. For the price, iWork is a much better deal than Office. However, if you need to exchange Word, Excel and Powerpoint docs with PC users on a daily basis, Office is the logical choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny that for as long as there have been reviews of word processors reviewers have complained about the word count feature being &quot;inconvenient&quot; -- meaning it takes more than a millisecond to get to -- yet pretty much the only people who obsessively check word count in this way are writers of newspaper columns (and high school students). We other 500 million users of word processors just write until we&#039;ve finished what we have to say, then stop! I think you could have found a better use for that 4% of your review (oops...I guess word count is useful after all).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny that for as long as there have been reviews of word processors reviewers have complained about the word count feature being &#8220;inconvenient&#8221; &#8212; meaning it takes more than a millisecond to get to &#8212; yet pretty much the only people who obsessively check word count in this way are writers of newspaper columns (and high school students). We other 500 million users of word processors just write until we&#8217;ve finished what we have to say, then stop! I think you could have found a better use for that 4% of your review (oops&#8230;I guess word count is useful after all).</p>
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		<title>By: Video preview of MS Office 2008 for Mac - Slick : Green &#38; White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video preview of MS Office 2008 for Mac - Slick : Green &#38; White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their office products for the Mac &#8212; Apple, who up till recently (iWork&#8217;08) had focused their Word Processing application for the creative design market (brochures, fliers, greeting cards, calendars etc) recently made a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Igor Guerrero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor Guerrero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want compatibility you should use OpenOffice.org... you don&#039;t have to pay anything for that :)... ohh wait, I remember it... if you are a &quot;Mainstream&quot; user, you have to pay for your programs, since you don&#039;t like any free program... even though it is supported by Sun Microsystems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want compatibility you should use OpenOffice.org&#8230; you don&#8217;t have to pay anything for that <img src='http://ptech.allthingsd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; ohh wait, I remember it&#8230; if you are a &#8220;Mainstream&#8221; user, you have to pay for your programs, since you don&#8217;t like any free program&#8230; even though it is supported by Sun Microsystems.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with much of Walt is saying, yet I have to disagree with his view on Numbers. For me Excel was always overkill and I never really learned how to use it. Numbers on the other hand is Excel for the common man. I use Numbers all the time now to keep track of things. I will agree that Numbers does lack some features, yet overall for those who need to do simple spreadsheets without a long learning curve Numbers is fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with much of Walt is saying, yet I have to disagree with his view on Numbers. For me Excel was always overkill and I never really learned how to use it. Numbers on the other hand is Excel for the common man. I use Numbers all the time now to keep track of things. I will agree that Numbers does lack some features, yet overall for those who need to do simple spreadsheets without a long learning curve Numbers is fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Posts Mac Office 2008 Videos - CyberNet News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft Posts Mac Office 2008 Videos - CyberNet News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] things about it. Heck, it even supports Microsoft&#8217;s new Open XML filetypes, but Mossberg says that iWork is &quot;wimpy&quot; compared to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas van Dijck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas van Dijck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and here&#039;s a tool you can use to convert WP documents to LaTeX:
http://www.penguin.cz/%7Efojtik/wp2latex/wp2latex.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and here&#8217;s a tool you can use to convert WP documents to LaTeX:<br />
<a href="http://www.penguin.cz/%7Efojtik/wp2latex/wp2latex.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.penguin.cz/%7Efojti.....2latex.htm</a></p>
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