Comments on: New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/ from The Wall Street Journal Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:37:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Which of these laptops is best value? | dealornodealonlinegame.net http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-16241 Which of these laptops is best value? | dealornodealonlinegame.net Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:43:27 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-16241 [...] i would really recommend is a MacBook! it has amazing battery life! ( http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/?sr=hotnews ) especially the new MacBook Pros. However being realistic i realize that not everyone can afford [...] [...] i would really recommend is a MacBook! it has amazing battery life! ( http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20.....sr=hotnews ) especially the new MacBook Pros. However being realistic i realize that not everyone can afford [...]

]]> By: Android Blog http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-9337 Android Blog Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:49:47 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-9337 A sealed battery would not be a deal breaker for me, but I still prefer easily swappable batteries, and have used them to great advantage, both in cell phones and computers. Our group uses several Macbooks. They have advantages and disadvantages, as do the Windows machines we use. The sealed batteries remind me of some makes of automobiles that have spark plugs that are extremely difficult to access. A sealed battery would not be a deal breaker for me, but I still prefer easily swappable batteries, and have used them to great advantage, both in cell phones and computers. Our group uses several Macbooks. They have advantages and disadvantages, as do the Windows machines we use. The sealed batteries remind me of some makes of automobiles that have spark plugs that are extremely difficult to access.

]]> By: Android Blog http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-9331 Android Blog Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:23:13 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-9331 A sealed battery would not be a deal breaker for me, but I still prefer easily swappable batteries, and have used them to great advantage, both in cell phones and computers. Our group uses several Macbooks. They have advantages and disadvantages, as do the Windows machines we use. The sealed batteries remind me of some makes of automobiles that have spark plugs that are extremely difficult to access. A sealed battery would not be a deal breaker for me, but I still prefer easily swappable batteries, and have used them to great advantage, both in cell phones and computers. Our group uses several Macbooks. They have advantages and disadvantages, as do the Windows machines we use. The sealed batteries remind me of some makes of automobiles that have spark plugs that are extremely difficult to access.

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]]> By: Mac Laptop News » Blog Archive » News: “Batteries in new Mac laptops offer “excellent” results” http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-4947 Mac Laptop News » Blog Archive » News: “Batteries in new Mac laptops offer “excellent” results” Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:00:28 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-4947 [...] Batteries in new Mac laptops offer “excellent” results on Apple Hot NewsTopics: MacBook Pro, MacBook [...] [...] Batteries in new Mac laptops offer “excellent” results on Apple Hot NewsTopics: MacBook Pro, MacBook [...]

]]> By: Mac OS X Tip: Changing the application used to open files | modtheiphone.com http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3585 Mac OS X Tip: Changing the application used to open files | modtheiphone.com Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:37:02 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-3585 [...] How do the batteries in the new MacBook Pro laptops measure up? Walt Mossberg (ptech.allthingsd.com) wanted to know, so “using my own harsh battery test,” he assessed the performance of new 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pro models. “The results,” he reports, ”were excellent. These two new Apple laptops scored among the highest battery lives between charges of any laptop I have ever tested.” Continue to read more… [...] [...] How do the batteries in the new MacBook Pro laptops measure up? Walt Mossberg (ptech.allthingsd.com) wanted to know, so “using my own harsh battery test,” he assessed the performance of new 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pro models. “The results,” he reports, ”were excellent. These two new Apple laptops scored among the highest battery lives between charges of any laptop I have ever tested.” Continue to read more… [...]

]]> By: Tony Green http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3559 Tony Green Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:22:48 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-3559 Hi, I have multiple reasons to be interested in this review. 1. I'm an independent Apple engineer in the UK. 2. I'm a very long term mac user, since 1987. 3. I'm a very heavy laptop user, partly because I need it for my work and partly because since wifi got fast enough and reliable enough I use my MacBook Pro 20 times as much as I do my desktops. I bought my MBP just over a year ago and am already on my second battery and will shortly be buying my 3rd. The cycle count on this battery is 396 and condition is now only 'fair' so it is, to all intents and purposes not fit for use as it will only give me about 80 mins use. If that was the case with a sealed battery I would be killing it in just over a year, that's a very long way off the 5 years claimed by Apple. I also travel a lot to Hong Kong and LA which means I have 12 hour flights to contend with. Unless I fly business class, which I don't, there is no power in the seats and even if I did, I'm not sure that the power in the seats is enough to take the 85w chargers needed for the MBPs. The Macbooks only use 65w so they wouldn't be an issue. I would be grateful for the extra battery power but would be forced into replacing the battery regularly, not an issue for me of course, provided I can get hold of them, but the ability to pop in an extra battery is something that I will miss... and when I used to travel with my iBook I used to carry 2 spares! Like all generalisations there are ALWAYS going to be a number of people who fall outside them, I just happen to be one of them on this issue. There are a number of alternatives that can supply additional power but they are, quite frankly, ridiculously expensive and I wouldn't entertain them, I'd rather watch the movies in-flight instead! Hi, I have multiple reasons to be interested in this review.
1. I’m an independent Apple engineer in the UK.
2. I’m a very long term mac user, since 1987.
3. I’m a very heavy laptop user, partly because I need it for my work and partly because since wifi got fast enough and reliable enough I use my MacBook Pro 20 times as much as I do my desktops.

I bought my MBP just over a year ago and am already on my second battery and will shortly be buying my 3rd. The cycle count on this battery is 396 and condition is now only ‘fair’ so it is, to all intents and purposes not fit for use as it will only give me about 80 mins use.
If that was the case with a sealed battery I would be killing it in just over a year, that’s a very long way off the 5 years claimed by Apple.
I also travel a lot to Hong Kong and LA which means I have 12 hour flights to contend with.
Unless I fly business class, which I don’t, there is no power in the seats and even if I did, I’m not sure that the power in the seats is enough to take the 85w chargers needed for the MBPs. The Macbooks only use 65w so they wouldn’t be an issue.
I would be grateful for the extra battery power but would be forced into replacing the battery regularly, not an issue for me of course, provided I can get hold of them, but the ability to pop in an extra battery is something that I will miss… and when I used to travel with my iBook I used to carry 2 spares!
Like all generalisations there are ALWAYS going to be a number of people who fall outside them, I just happen to be one of them on this issue. There are a number of alternatives that can supply additional power but they are, quite frankly, ridiculously expensive and I wouldn’t entertain them, I’d rather watch the movies in-flight instead!

]]> By: Walt Mossberg on MacBook Pro’s sealed in batteries http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3558 Walt Mossberg on MacBook Pro’s sealed in batteries Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:14:10 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-3558 [...] Via [All Things Digital] [...] [...] Via [All Things Digital] [...]

]]> By: Gerritt Dunn http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3534 Gerritt Dunn Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:04:22 +0000 http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090624/new-mac-laptops-use-batteries-sealed-for-power/#comment-3534 The auto analogy doesn't do anything for me. Neither does the minor PC/MAC cost flame war. The Dell Adamo referenced here has similar technology incorporating an internal battery. After 30 seconds of of Google and 5 minutes of review, this does do something for me: http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/13/dell-adamo-review/ Worth a read if this URL doesn't offend the WSJ-ATD with a competitor's review site. Consider if this review addresses this article's lack of an honest comparison or alternative viewpoint an astute shopper would want when considering a purchase decision of similar cost products. This post is relevant as this article offers up these specific technology comparisons and also cost issues as worthy of note; an unfortunate wondering off topic in my opinion. What I would really like to see is a full blown comparison in cost and technology between 'like' models of laptops, Mac vs anyone else. Case construction, Processor(s), hard drive, RAM, Port/slots, Video, maintenance plan costs/term and what is covered, internal component quality breakdowns. Even beyond to the OS: how much cost, how often updated, how frequently replaced with a new GUI. Security concerns. Include W7 and Snow Leopard. Review/compare legitimate bundled SW, and exclude the Demos. Cross reference functions like backups, ease of making WiFi connections, how much basic OS knowledge the end user needs to make (relearn) to make the computer function; the kinds of issues that would affect a TCO and the end user experience over years of ownership. Just the facts, no color commentary. Where\when has this been done? I've looked long and hard but haven't come up with anything close. Even trying to accomplish this across many blogs and various HW review sites is a frustration. Both camps provide entertaining ads and articles, but not the details. The auto analogy doesn’t do anything for me. Neither does the minor PC/MAC cost flame war. The Dell Adamo referenced here has similar technology incorporating an internal battery. After 30 seconds of of Google and 5 minutes of review, this does do something for me: http://www.engadget.com/2009/0.....mo-review/
Worth a read if this URL doesn’t offend the WSJ-ATD with a competitor’s review site. Consider if this review addresses this article’s lack of an honest comparison or alternative viewpoint an astute shopper would want when considering a purchase decision of similar cost products. This post is relevant as this article offers up these specific technology comparisons and also cost issues as worthy of note; an unfortunate wondering off topic in my opinion.

What I would really like to see is a full blown comparison in cost and technology between ‘like’ models of laptops, Mac vs anyone else. Case construction, Processor(s), hard drive, RAM, Port/slots, Video, maintenance plan costs/term and what is covered, internal component quality breakdowns. Even beyond to the OS: how much cost, how often updated, how frequently replaced with a new GUI. Security concerns. Include W7 and Snow Leopard. Review/compare legitimate bundled SW, and exclude the Demos. Cross reference functions like backups, ease of making WiFi connections, how much basic OS knowledge the end user needs to make (relearn) to make the computer function; the kinds of issues that would affect a TCO and the end user experience over years of ownership. Just the facts, no color commentary.

Where\when has this been done? I’ve looked long and hard but haven’t come up with anything close. Even trying to accomplish this across many blogs and various HW review sites is a frustration. Both camps provide entertaining ads and articles, but not the details.

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